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[Jerk]

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[petespace1]

Royal Enfield Scram 411 Unveiled

Royal Enfield unveils the long-rumored Scram 411. The urban-oriented variant is heavily based on the brand’s Himalayan model but updates the styling.

www.cycleworld.com

 

[mpp1]

I just took a short test ride of the Scram at my local showroom, color me impressed. Loved the torquey engine and the nimble handling. Before today's ride, I had only ridden the Himalayan for a 3km ride.
So this kind of engine/riding position/ground clearance combo is perfect for the riding conditions like India with broken roads, no roads and smooth tarmac in between.
The long stroke mill loves to rev and the gear shifts are pretty smooth. I rode on all kinds of roads during the brief ride and I loved how the suspension handled my 110kg frame over the worst broken roads that you can imagine, it also excelled on smooth tarmac.
Fit and finish is getting better with each new RE bike.
Brakes could be better.
Taller riders would require a wider and higher handlebar right away, I found my hands to be too close to the stock bar and I'm barely 5'11". Maybe a set of 2" risers could do the trick.

 

[DaveH55]

I just took a short test ride of the Scram at my local showroom, color me impressed. Loved the torquey engine and the nimble handling. Before today's ride, I had only ridden the Himalayan for a 3km ride.
So this kind of engine/riding position/ground clearance combo is perfect for the riding conditions like India with broken roads, no roads and smooth tarmac in between.
The long stroke mill loves to rev and the gear shifts are pretty smooth. I rode on all kinds of roads during the brief ride and I loved how the suspension handled my 110kg frame over the worst broken roads that you can imagine, it also excelled on smooth tarmac.
Fit and finish is getting better with each new RE bike.
Brakes could be better.
Taller riders would require a wider and higher handlebar right away, I found my hands to be too close to the stock bar and I'm barely 5'11".View attachment 4590View attachment 4591View attachment 4592View attachment 4593 Maybe a set of 2" risers could do the trick.

Are you saying the Scram engine is tuned differently to the Himalayan?

 

[mpp1]

To be honest I haven't ridden the Himalayan at all except a short 3km ride a few weeks ago so I'm not the best judge. The Scram just seemed like a normal peppy 24hp machine, not like a lumbering 24hp RE machine.
Also on a couple of professional first ride reviews I've seen on YouTube have claimed that some changes have been made to the 411cc engine on the Scram, and the same tune would be applied to all new Himalayans from now on as well.
Here's proof

 

[petespace1]

To be honest I haven't ridden the Himalayan at all except a short 3km ride a few weeks ago so I'm not the best judge. The Scram just seemed like a normal peppy 24hp machine, not like a lumbering 24hp RE machine.

Hope this makes sense.

Read in a review that the side panels on the Scram stick out more than the Himalayan. This combined with the lower bars apparently makes it harder to stand on pegs (hits calf) and you in need to bend down more making it worse for off road riding.

Mpp1, as you have to access to both the scram and the Himalayan, are you able to sit on both in your local shop and stand on pegs and tell us whether this is true? And your impression of the riding triangle? Thanks mate.

 

[Bluestrom13]

TO me, it looks a tad cramped. Look at how the guys knees are bent. Standing - Not so bad?

 

[petespace1]

Is it me or is the rider in the second photo shorter than the bloke in the first and last photos?

 

[mpp1]

Is it me or is the rider in the second photo shorter than the bloke in the first and last photos?

yep, different guy

 

[mpp1]

Is it me or is the rider in the second photo shorter than the bloke in the first and last photos?

The guy in the 1st and 3rd pics is the same and he's 6'+ if I remember watching his videos correctly, here's his review:

As you can see at the 3:11 time-stamp, his hands look too close to the handlebar, which is exactly what I felt. In fact within that 8-10 minute ride, at the end I felt like I needed to relax my left wrist already and took it off the handle. Riding on city roads in India is a hard task, you have to be super careful as anything can come from any side so here I am trying to enjoy the ride, make my impressions at the same time and watching traffic.

 

[mpp1]

Read in a review that the side panels on the Scram stick out more than the Himalayan. This combined with the lower bars apparently makes it harder to stand on pegs (hits calf) and you in need to bend down more making it worse for off road riding.

Mpp1, as you have to access to both the scram and the Himalayan, are you able to sit on both in your local shop and stand on pegs and tell us whether this is true? And your impression of the riding triangle? Thanks mate.

One thing I can tell you is that Scram is a lot more approachable than the Himalayan any time of the day. They had the Himmy on its center-stand in the showroom and I was really surprised at how much bigger and heftier it looked to the Scram despite being the same bike with just shorter front tyre. I'm not an off-roader at all but I will try the next time I go to the showroom.

 

[mannanoida]

I own Scram 411 and already rode it more than 1100 kilometers. Its a good machine. Easy to maneuver in all kind of roads. I feel confident in riding it. I ride 243 kilometers in a single day without any kind of problems in Hills. Very comfortable and fun machine to ride.

 

[Laserman]

Great pic Manna, and welcome to the forum!

I feel like the Himalayan is already very comfortable (mine still has stock saddle) and fun to ride, even on a windy day with all the soft bags I have on it. It's only twice my weight and so it feels quite light to me, having come from miles of old GoldWing riding. Of course, this is my opinion and everyone's experience is unique to themselves.

It makes total sense that the Scram is more approachable, being lighter and shorter yet retaining the core of what makes a Himalayan a pretty darn cool bike. I'm looking forward to seeing the "hotrods" that get built from it! Scram 865 when?

 

[Laserman]

Seeing the specials that are in Cooperb there is probably a Scram in the process of being modded into something unique. The only hiccup I have been told about is that if you put a Himsy centre stand on it the bike rolls forwards off it.

If that's true, it's likely because of the angle of the stand's feet. The Scram doesn't have the Himmie's 21" front wheel, so the stand legs may need to be modified with an angle cut and some new feet. Also, a wheel chock is technically sposed to be used with the center stand if you believe the "cover-your-arsers"

 

[mpp1]

Looks like the Scram is coming to the States very soon.

 

[AeroRider]

Saw 4 different Scram 411's at my dealer this afternoon!

 

[rwf]

Got mine last week

 

[Laserman]

@rwf I'm curious - does your Scram have the "choke" lever on the left grip? I think I see it when zooming in, but I can't be sure.

 

[Eatmore Mudd]

Has anyone found a link to the parts book and the service manual yet ? I'd like to see in detail what's different from my Himalayan.

 

[rwf]

@rwf I'm curious - does your Scram have the "choke" lever on the left grip? I think I see it when zooming in, but I can't be sure.

No choke. I think you’re seeing the bolt head on the mirror-clutch bracket. It’s my understanding the Scram has a different injection system than the 2022 Himalayan. I noticed they had a choke lever.