Full Synthetic Oil Vendor Recommendation

Wintrup

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Cumbria UK
For those in the UK, Smith & Allan sell 5 litres of fully synthetic oil 10W-40 for £22.50 delivered. Just bought some and done my yearly oil change.
 

Roy Gavin

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I have to pay $98- , around 60 quid, for 4 liters of Motul 100% Ester, delivered.
Or $109- if I go in and hand cash over the counter. Go figure !
Oil level hardly changes between services, so the 4L easily does two.
But oil , tires, and probably batteries are areas where I am happy to pay a premium , or waste a little cash, or be ripped off, if you prefer, to try and make certain I have the best product around - I don't want to ever have any problems because I cheapened out on them.
 

Eatmore Mudd

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I have to pay $98- , around 60 quid, for 4 liters of Motul 100% Ester, delivered.
Or $109- if I go in and hand cash over the counter. Go figure !
Oil level hardly changes between services, so the 4L easily does two.
But oil , tires, and probably batteries are areas where I am happy to pay a premium , or waste a little cash, or be ripped off, if you prefer, to try and make certain I have the best product around - I don't want to ever have any problems because I cheapened out on them.
+1 !!!
 

Bluestrom13

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Location
UK
For those in the UK, Smith & Allan sell 5 litres of fully synthetic oil 10W-40 for £22.50 delivered.
(But unfortunately that top link's dead).
They also do the RE recommended 15W-50 full Synthetic at £24-99. Same place - Ebay. Search "Smith & Allan Oil"
 

KTM AL

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Location
Southwater UK
For those in the UK, Smith & Allan sell 5 litres of fully synthetic oil 10W-40 for £22.50 delivered. Just bought some and done my yearly oil change.
I always use Smith & Allen oils. But I was unable to get 15w50 semi oil from them for my Himalayan though.
 

Bluestrom13

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Location
UK
Listing link copied at time of this post and available. - Got mine mid-July
 
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KTM AL

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Location
Southwater UK
Thanks for the link, I thought the Himalayan oil specification was for Semi Synthetic JASO MA2. Are they ok to run on fully synthetic, will they bed in ok or burn oil?
Cheers
Don't want to turn this in to an oil thread
 

Bluestrom13

Well travelled
Location
UK
Thanks for the link, I thought the Himalayan oil specification was for Semi Synthetic JASO MA2. Are they ok to run on fully synthetic, will they bed in ok or burn oil?
Cheers
Don't want to turn this in to an oil thread
The thread is called "Fully Synthetic Oil Recommendation", so that's OK?
The fully syn in that link is Jaso M2 and API SL as Enfield recommend
And just for some insight from people I hope know -
Happy riding.:)
 
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So just had my 3000 mile service done at the nearest RD dealer. They used Castrol Go! 20W50 4T conventional oil. I had previously changed it at 1200 miles using the LiquiMoly 15W50 4T Full synthetic. Thought RE recommended at least a Semi Synthetic. So riding the bike home after a while the clutch didn't seem to perform as well and the shifting was much more difficult. So much for the $287 I spent, bring it in running like a top and leave with a lighter wallet and poor performance. Guess I'll be changing the oil and filter this weekend back to the LiquiMoly.
 
some more good oil info:

Car oils contain friction modifiers and are formulated with a focus on reducing friction between moving parts in an effort to improve fuel economy and reduce emissions. Also, these oils contain detergent additives, whose ash content is relatively high. If used in motorcycle engines, these could result in the formation of deposits on the piston crowns as well as the valve train. Deposits can cause pressure build up, leading to perforation and burning of components.

Motorcycles, on the other hand, use the same oil for both the engine and the gearbox. Motorcycle oils are therefore uniquely formulated to offer protection for engine components and the transmission gears. They need to be slippery enough to protect the engine, but not too slippery that they affect the wet clutch found in most motorcycles.

Motorcycle oils are designed to strike a good balance between clutch performance, and engine and transmission protection – something that is not considered in the manufacturing of car oils. When car oil is used in a motorcycle the clutch may not fully engage, leading to clutch slippage and power loss.

To avoid issues, always use a motor oil designed for motorcycles with JASO rating (i.e. safe to use with a wet clutch). JASO ratings are MA, MA1 and MA2 with MA being the most slippery and MA2 offering the best clutch performance. There is also a JASO MB rating designed for automatic transmissions like those found in scooters (don’t use with a wet clutch).

There are many benefits to using synthetic motor oil that you won’t get from just regular oil changes. Synthetic oils protect engines better under heat conditions and flow better under extremely cold conditions. Not only will it make your engine run cooler but also smoother because of how synthetics are designed. Synthetics are known to withstand heat better and not breakdown at high temperatures or high loads. Certain Synthetic oils, like our racing product, have also proven to increase horsepower in some cases.
In addition, you can expect longer drain intervals, a better detergent package to clean up impurities, smoother shifting, and improved overall levels of performance. Several of our synthetic oils include Esters as well, which offer extra protection for cold startups by leaving a fine film on all ferrous metal components to prevent premature wear of high-stressed parts like cam lobes.
 
Many years ago I had a commuter car that I didn't take that good care of, but did run full synthetic. After driving one day I discovered it was over 2 quarts low on oil due to an oil pan leak. It probably held less than 4 when full. Not even sure how many miles it had been low as all I did was get up before daylight and drive off to work etc. That's when I became a fan of full synthetic, I drove that car another 40k miles with no issues. I think if I had been running conventional oil that engine would have been toast.
 
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