Starting problems?

John in Texas

Finally made it
Location
Texas
Last week I got a call from the owner of the dealership, well in truth it was a voice mail. I replayed it yesterday and he said it was the starter solenoid, the lady I spoke with said relay.
Going to look up the contact information on Royal Enfield USA. See if they have a consumer contact line.
John in Texas
 

wachuko

Well travelled
Location
Orlando, FL
These are extraordinary times... My thoughts are, relax, if I can get the parts and fix it myself, then I do so... No sense to stress or get upset about it.

We will have better days ahead (in several months, I know, but hey, always the optimistic ;))
 
Thanks for the link to the Panasonic relays from Mouser. I got 4. Will they work as replacements for the lower two (accessory) relays? I read, above, that the accessory relays can be used to replace the starter or fuel pump relays. Wondering if the reverse is true? Perhaps all four relays are the same?

To me, a relay is a race with 4 consecutive runners. Duh....

Ralph
 

wachuko

Well travelled
Location
Orlando, FL
Thanks for the link to the Panasonic relays from Mouser. I got 4. Will they work as replacements for the lower two (accessory) relays? I read, above, that the accessory relays can be used to replace the starter or fuel pump relays. Wondering if the reverse is true? Perhaps all four relays are the same?

To me, a relay is a race with 4 consecutive runners. Duh....

Ralph
All four are exactly the same. So yes, in case of emergency, you can swap any of the lower two for the starter or fuel pump relay... Knowing that the stock units are not that great, I will keep those as souvenirs.

Reason I got 10 was to have the spares be of the same quality. I plan to have two in the toolbox that is in the bike and leave the other four at home...
 

John in Texas

Finally made it
Location
Texas
Got a call yesterday and the part has come in and been installed. I will pick it up at 11 today.
I had sent RE USA an email about this but never got a response.
I will ask to see the old part and take the new Panasonic ones I bought to compare them.

Back on the road. Hope to meet up with friends for breakfast and maybe a ride after.
Cheers
John in Texas
 

wachuko

Well travelled
Location
Orlando, FL
Got a call yesterday and the part has come in and been installed. I will pick it up at 11 today.
I had sent RE USA an email about this but never got a response.
I will ask to see the old part and take the new Panasonic ones I bought to compare them.

Back on the road. Hope to meet up with friends for breakfast and maybe a ride after.
Cheers
John in Texas
Since you got two replies for the culprit (relay or starter solenoid), would be great if you can confirm which of the two was the problem.

Glad it is fixed and back on the road! Enjoy!
 

John in Texas

Finally made it
Location
Texas
I just got back with the bike. It was the solenoid not the relay so my having the relays wouldn't have done any good.
All covered under warranty. My thanks to all that have offered moral support and to Royal Enfield of Ft. Worth.
I do wish that product support by Royal Enfield USA was better but being an American I always want instantaneous response As a friend once said I'm an American and I want it now, it doesn't always happen.
See you on the road.
John in Texas
 

wachuko

Well travelled
Location
Orlando, FL
John, thank you for reporting back what was the actual part that failed. So this part:



I will get one and keep it in the toolkit just in case. Cheap insurance.
 

John in Texas

Finally made it
Location
Texas
John, thank you for reporting back what was the actual part that failed. So this part:



I will get one and keep it in the toolkit just in case. Cheap insurance.
I asked to see the defective part and yes, that's it.
We all can't just keep parts on the shelf just in case. An extra oil and air filter and a clutch cable I can see. But when we start getting into the what ifs that gets expensive. Just saying.
John in Texas
 

John in Texas

Finally made it
Location
Texas
Went out for an early morning ride, turned back after 10 miles, way to cold for me. It was around 32 degrees when I left.
I guess in my old age I'm getting smarter. Also saw 3 deer along the side of the road which could cause a bad accident if you hit one.
Cheers
John in Texas
 

John in Texas

Finally made it
Location
Texas
We have all sorts of critters here in the states. Deer as I mentioned, Elk in parts of AZ, CO, UT, WY MT and Idaho. Here in Texas we have wild hogs and no not the movie. Hogs can weigh up to 700 pounds and come out mostly at night.
Haven't hit and of the above, did hit a pigeon once, caught it with my mirror and quite literally knocked the S*** out of it. Had to go home and change clothes. Mostly dogs are what you have to watch out for.
As always, ride safe.
 

Haggisman

Getting there...
I have hit a 250lb deer, a 3ft tall kangaroo and also a 6ft tall kangaroo, all of the thankfully while driving cars.
On my bike I almost (missed by inches) hit a 6 foot long goanna running across the road , I was doing 70mph, also hit a cat and a small bird.
Life can be exciting out on the road.
 

Roy Gavin

Well travelled
For some reason the Roos in this state seem to be coming in from the remote parts to suburbia,
Couple of weeks back had a brush with a big Grey in the main street of Mylor.
Just clipped the back, indicator and number plate the only casualties, but not far from a total - you never knew when your number is up!
 

John in Texas

Finally made it
Location
Texas
Well it did it again. Went t start up my Interceptor and nothing. Called the dealer right away and e was as baffled as I was.
He called the warehouse and got ahold of the chief trouble shooter, he couldn't raise him earlier when this all started. Anyway the gut said to check the battery, now I had checked and the battery was fully charged and I had no way to check it under load. Took the battery down to Batteries Plus and they put it on a load test and it was bad. OK. Now we know that all along it was the battery, so it you have a starting issue and even if it is fully charged do a load test.
John in Texas
 

wachuko

Well travelled
Location
Orlando, FL
John, what year is your bike?

On my BMW the factory battery died right after one year... and I keep my bikes on battery tenders!! Well, let's hope that is the end of this issue you were having.

The other thing that you will need to check (if the dealer did not check that already) is if the bike is charging. Measuring the voltage across the battery while it is running will let you know if that is the case.
 

Roy Gavin

Well travelled
Found that a few years back when we were changing from the old wet lead acid to something "better" , in my case Odyssey batteries which were half the size and four times the price of the big 30 AH wet battery in my BMWs.
First one just died under load one month short of the 12 month replacement warranty, second made it one month past.
No warning, still full resting volts, but just died under load.
I understand this is how most new tech batteries fail, they don't grow old gracefully like the old wet ones.
Compact and low cost load testers are now available for home use , I have a Topdon which was less than $25- it it gives you a good warning of potential problems which a simple voltage reading will not,
A test is now part of my normal service procedure, and I also like to fit a warning light like the GAMMATRONIX unit which gives a good warning of developing problems too..
Still waiting on my new ignition switch, have back fed the live side of the switch with a fused and switched lead and it has actually improved starting.
It usually started first go, but sometimes after a crank or two, but it now bursts into life instantly, must have had a voltage loss through the old switch.
 
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